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WOW if this isn't questionable politics:
CLEVELAND - Volunteers supporting Barack Obama picked up hundreds of people at homeless shelters, soup kitchens and drug-rehab centers and drove them to a polling place yesterday on the last day that Ohioans could register and vote on the same day, almost no questions asked.
The huge effort by a pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, takes advantage of a quirk in the state's elections laws that allows people to register and cast ballots at the same time without having to prove residency.
Republicans have argued that the window could lead to widespread voter fraud because officials wouldn't have an opportunity to verify registration information before ballots were cast.
Among the volunteers were Yori Stadlin and Vivian Lehrer of the Upper West Side, who got married last week and decided to spend their honeymoon shepherding voters to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.
Palin is extremely dangerous! Her unpredictable crazy comments on foreign policy, her stance on abortion, her alliance with far right religious right groups, her obvious inexperience of world politics make her a very shaky VIP! ... I am so tired of the "good" and "evil" analogy of Bush.. Why does she keep bringing that infantile talk to the voters???
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, please refer to the Voter fraud post on October 1st. Republican supporters are breaking the law left and right with voter fraud. They are blatantly lying to people, and discouraging potential voters.
Now, volunteers of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), announced they have successfully registered 1.3 million Americans in 21 states.
ACORN is "is the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities."
It is a noble cause that they stand for and its not surprising that they chose to support Obama. Why would a organization devoted to helping the poor choose McCain?
This registration has given a voice to people who are forgotten. This election effects everyone. And they deserve a voice just like everyone else, because they are Americans.
Well said, anonymous.
um - whats that about acorn? want to repeat it? Talk about timing PLEASE READ. THIS ELECTION IS FRADULOUS!!!!!!
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada authorities seized records Tuesday from a group they accused of submitting fraudulent voter-registration forms — including for the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys.
"Tony Romo is not registered to vote in the state of Nevada, and anybody trying to pose as Terrell Owens won't be able to cast a ballot on Nov. 4," said Secretary of State Ross Miller, referring to star players on the pro football team.
State authorities raided the headquarters of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a group that works to register low-income people.
Miller said the raid was part of a monthslong investigation, and he contended the group had submitted registration forms that used false information or duplicated information on multiple forms. He did not estimate how many.
JJ...
Thanks for the post, but we like to give people all of the available information on this site. If you are going to cut and paste an AP news story into the blog, at least paste the whole thing- not just the parts that you like. Here is the second half of that same story for those of you who prefer to have all available information before drawing conclusions...
"Bertha Lewis, interim chief organizer for ACORN, said the group has been working with election officials to weed out fraudulent forms from those submitted by the canvassers it hires.
"Today's raid by the secretary of state's office is a stunt that serves no useful purpose other than to discredit our work registering Nevadans," Lewis said.
"For the past 10 months, anytime ACORN has identified a potentially fraudulent application, we turn that application in to election officials separately and offer to provide election officials with the information they would need to pursue an investigation or prosecution of the individual," Lewis said.
She said ACORN had turned in 46 problem applications submitted by 33 former employees to election officials in the Las Vegas area, where it has registered 80,000 people.
According to its national Web site, the group has registered 1.3 million people nationwide for the Nov. 4 election. It has encountered complaints of fraud stemming from registration efforts in Wisconsin, North Carolina, New Mexico, Michigan, Ohio and Missouri.
"The fact is, this is hard work and there were some people that probably sat down on a couch and filled out names out of a phone book," said Matthew Henderson, Southwest regional director for ACORN. "That's really what we're talking about here — not an attempt to steal an election."
Miller said no one had been charged or arrested in Nevada.
His spokesman, Bob Walsh, said investigators were using information from various sources, including the FBI and the U.S. attorney's office in Nevada.
"You don't have to read too many cop novels to know that sometimes people will tell you a grain of truth to try to hide the rest of the truth," Walsh said. "I'm certainly not suggesting that ACORN is that nefarious, but at the same time just because they handed over 50 to you doesn't mean there aren't 150 others out there.""
Now. First of all, ACORN has not yet been charged with anything. They are under investigation. Further, ACORN is not part of the Obama campaign, therefore their actions have nothing to do with his campaign. I do not know whether or not ACORN has committed voter fraud, but I do know that the Republican party has been notorious for voter fraud tactics. See below (sorry for such a long post everyone)...
"In El Paso County, Colorado, the county clerk -- a delegate to the Republican National Convention -- told out-of-state undergraduates at Colorado College, falsely, that they couldn't vote in Colorado if their parents claim them as dependents on their taxes.
In Montgomery County, Virginia, the county registrar issued a press release warning out-of-state college students, falsely, that if they register to vote in Virginia, they won't be eligible for coverage under their parents' health and car insurance, and that "if you have a scholarship attached to your former residence, you could lose this funding."
In Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, Democratic voters received a mailing containing tear-out requests for absentee ballots addressed to the clerk in Caledonia -- the wrong location. In Middleton, Wisconsin, Democratic voters received absentee ballot requests addressed to the clerk in Madison -- the wrong address. Both mailers were sent by the McCain campaign.
Florida, Michigan and Ohio have some of the country's highest foreclosure rates. "Because many homeowners in foreclosure are black or poor," says the New York Times, "and are considered probable Democratic voters in many areas, the issue has begun to have political ramifications." If you're one of the million Americans who lost a home through foreclosure, and if you didn't file a change of address with your election board, you're a sitting duck for an Election Day challenge by a partisan poll watcher holding a public list of foreclosed homes. In states like New Mexico and Iowa, the number of foreclosures is greater than the number of votes by which George W. Bush carried the state in 2004.
In the 2006 election, according to the nonpartisan Fair Elections Legal Network, black voters in Virginia got computer-generated phone calls from a bogus "Virginia Election Commission" telling them that they could be arrested if they went to the wrong polling place; in Maryland, out-of-state leafleters gave phony Democratic sample ballots to black voters with the names of Republican candidates checked in red; in New Mexico, Democratic voters got personal phone calls from out of state that directed them to the wrong polling place. Does anyone think this won't be tried again in 2008?"
Oh, by the way...
FRADULOUS, Jimmy Jones, is most certainly NOT a word.
so hug a tree,
besides correcting my grammer, which you know what the word means whether it's in the dictionary or not. Let's hear your opinion on the acorn issue posted here. and also I only pasted what appeared to be the facts of the AP story, not the fill in.
JJ...
Making up words displays ignorance...not lack of grammatical skills (P.S. Your spelling could use some help as well.) Leaving out the entire other side of a news story also exhibits ignorance. But, who knows...perhaps I'm just an "elitist".
Anyway...
I think that it is more likely that ACORN employees turned in fake registration forms to get paid for work that they didn't do, rather than the organization plotted to register fake names which no one would be able to vote with anyway. This is why I feel it is important to not leave out the other side of the story. I don't know what is actually going on with ACORN...no one does, which is why they are under investigation. Let's see what they find out. But, I do think that there is more than one possibility as to the cause of the fake names.
Furthermore, I think it is interesting how members of the Republican party bring so much attention to this potential case of "voter fraud" while completely ignoring the evidence pointing to voter fraud to their advantage. Why not address it as an entire issue?
I also think, regarding the bigger picture here, that it is clever (not)that the McCain campaign keep coming up with petty attempts to slam Barack Obama's character while bringing close to no attention to any of the issues that are actually affecting people today.
I think you guys are really grasping here.
elitist,
instead of attacking the poster about grammer and made up words, get to the point and state your defense against this "fraudulous" orginization.
Speaking of ignorant, I challenge you to contact say....10 of these voters acorn has registered. Have as an intelligent of a conversation as possible and find out how many of these 10 can name an issue obama supports or how having an obama administration will benefit them. Then ask them what color obama and mccain are. I can almost guarantee you'll get a less than 50% intelligent answer on question 1 and at least 90% correct answer on question 2. Then speak to me about ignorance.
THIS IS JUST GREAT:
O'jahnae Smith is ready and registered to vote this November.
There's only one problem: She's 7 years old.
The Connecticut girl is 11 years too young - and nobody in her family knows how she ended up on a voter registration form submitted by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
"She's registered to vote?" said a surprised Jerome Smith, O'jahnae's teenage brother. "She's too young to vote."
But that didn't stop someone from forging the child's signature on a voter registration card and giving her a fake birth date that upped her age to 27. The family told The Post a drug-addicted relative may have given the bogus card to ACORN.
Voter registration fraud complaints like these continue to mount for the group, already under scrutiny in 11 states where hundreds, if not thousands, of new registrations are being questioned.
ACORN volunteers have been found to register dead people and even put members of the Dallas Cowboys on Nevada lists.
The community organizing group has a long history of flooding low- and middle-income neighborhoods in election years with temporary workers instructed to register 20 to 25 voters per day - or risk getting fired.
Most states prohibit paying per signature, but ACORN workers earning $8 to $9 an hour still have to hit their quotas. And many need the money - including some ex-cons in work-release programs.
ACORN's controversial tactics have fueled John McCain's criticism of Barack Obama, whose campaign paid an ACORN spinoff - Community Services Inc. - about $800,000 to knock on doors and urge people to vote for Obama in four key primary states: Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Texas.
In his pre-politics days, Obama ran the Illinois chapter of Project Vote in 1992, before it hooked up with ACORN.
McCain campaign manager Rick Davis on Friday called for a freeze on taxpayer dollars to ACORN until recent allegations have been investigated.
Meanwhile, state authorities in New Mexico, Indiana, Missouri, Connecticut, Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Nevada have launched probes of bogus voter registration forms filed by ACORN.
Roberta Casteel, a nurse, is one of several dozen Nevada voters caught in the web of fake ACORN registrations. Casteel, a registered voter since 1991, was shocked to receive a letter rejecting a voter application she didn't know she'd made.
Authorities said they'd received two voter applications in her name: one as a Democrat and one as an independent. Both cards had her address, date of birth and Social Security number, and were submitted by ACORN workers. Neither signature matched her original one on file.
A former ACORN worker in Pennsylvania has already been charged with 17 counts of identity theft and forgery.
Other states are sifting through cartons of suspicious forms.
The ACORN shenanigans likely won't rise to actual voting fraud, stressed election law expert Terri Enns at Ohio State University.
"ACORN's problematic registrations create extra work for election boards, because they have to check them, but it's not double voting," she said.
Jimmy Jones.
Like I said, and what this article seems to show, is that ACORN workers have probably registered fake names on multiple occasions to get paid for doing less work. It doesn't appear that the organization itself is openly trying to sabotage the voting process (although perhaps they should do a better job at screening forms), and ACORN has apparently cooperated with election officials to try to curb this activity. As far as Obama paying Community Services Inc. for campaigning for him is concerned, I don't see anything wrong with this, as it seems to be a pretty common campaign strategy to pay an organization to knock on doors for you.
I agree that this issue is one that should be addressed so not to burden government employees more than they already are throughout the voting process, but to make it out to be a conspiracy used by the Obama campaign to win an election is absurd, considering this scam will have virtually no effect on actual votes cast.
Answer me this...How does ACORN or the Obama campaign benefit from fake names being registered? Why are some of the fake names registered as Republicans? I don't know...maybe I'm missing something but it doesn't seem like a very good plan to swing an election.
What this article concludes(but, judging by your opening comment, perhaps you didn't read the whole thing??)is that registering fake voters does not result in additional votes being cast. They can register as many dead people as they want, it won't bring the corpses out to the booths in November. Think about it, Jimmy Jones.
And by the way, was that an actual news article or was it taken directly off of a blog post on MSNBC's site?
And what is up with this statement?-
"In his pre-politics days, Obama ran the Illinois chapter of Project Vote in 1992, before it hooked up with ACORN." How is this relevant? Is Project Vote also under investigation? Again, I must say, the arguments are getting pretty ridiculous.
Oh and by the way, in regards to your comment about the ignorance of poor people that ACORN is trying to register...
You are right. Poor people are often uneducated and therefore do not have a voice for themselves to improve their well-being. This is exactly why community groups such as ACORN are created, to give a voice to these people, and to help them better their lives. They have endorsed Obama because Obama wants to address the issue of poverty in this country; he wants to improve public education; and he wants all Americans to be able to afford health insurance. All of these things would benefit poor people, and therefore contribute to the motives of an organization such as ACORN.
And as far as your comment about asking about the skin color of the candidates, I guess I don't get what you are getting at. Poor people might often be uneducated, but they are not necessarily blind.
elitist,
As for the color issue, I guess I will be blunt. Uneducated people that acorn are registering are likely to vote for Obama solely for his race and not for how he stands.
As for acorn, tell me how many rural poor neighborhoods say in Ohio are they targeting? Or how many redneck poor people in trailer parks say in Nevada or Florida, all swing states is acorn contacting for voter registration? My guess is zero to none!
As for your "race" issue JJ, seems again like you are the ignorant one. To assume that all uneducated people that ACORN is registering are black (or that they will all vote for a black man, for any other reason) is a pretty ridiculous statement. To assume that reverse discrimination is going to swing this election is ABSURD! I can't even count the number of people who have said to me, "I just don't know if America is ready for a black president." Your statements seem a little risky to me.
But you are right about one thing...many poor people are probably going to vote for Obama, but more likely because ACORN has endorsed him, and they are an organization committed to helping poor people. But that is beside the point. There are plenty of ignorant people in this country (most of whom are voting for McCain) who are not poor, but by all means still should have the right to vote, since ya know, it is our right as Americans. Are you saying poor people should be disenfranchised because they are ignorant? Not cool, man. Americans all have the right to vote.
And as for your other argument, that ACORN is only targeting neighborhoods with likely Obama voters, well, I would too if my goal was to help poor people...McCain sure as hell won't.
And lastly, you didn't answer my questions for the previous post.
How does ACORN or the Obama campaign benefit from fake names being registered? And why are some of the fake names registered as Republicans?
elitist,
where did I say "ALL"? I said uneducated acorn registrants are likely to vote for the big o. Do you dispute that?
To answer your question, how can voter reg fraud benefit the big O? Well tell me this, How can you have voter fraud without reg fraud? Fact is Reg fraud leads to Voter fraud, and if ACORN is targeting Obama voters, then I am sure it favors him over Mcdepends.
Elitist have you ever seen the 90 year old ladies that preside over voter election precincts? how hard do you think it is to fraud these people with a simple fake ID or other methods. Or even better, how about mail in voters, absentee voters, early voters.....much easier to have voter fraud. All stems from Registration fraud. ACORN is just now being called out on it's fraudulous practices it has been conducting over the past 2 years!!!!!!!
as far as some being registered as republicans? How is that relevant? Any republican can vote for Obama? If Mickey Mouse is registered as republican, do you really think a republican is doing that when it comes from ACORN??????
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